This here Episode 21 turned into a good, old-fashioned podcast exchange between the Friends of the Show and our good friends (wait for it...of the show) at the Weekly Dictator.
John sat down for a long overdue podcast with longtime friends of the show Josh Grimmer and Aurora Nibley. They haven't met in person for almost three years, so this show covered a lot of ground. In the event that you can't get enough, John also guested on Episode 102 of The Weekly Dictator, along with friend of the show Nate Hoyt.
Enjoy!